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Pensacola gunman got around a ban on foreigners buying guns

YAHOO.COM December 10, 2009 –  Generally, foreigners are not allowed to buy guns in the United States. But there are exceptions written into federal law, which may explain how the Saudi flight student who shot three servicemen to death at the Pensacola naval base was able to purchase a weapon.

For example, a foreigner who manages to obtain a state hunting license and can show proof of residency in that state can legally buy a gun.

“It seems every day we find a new loophole,” said Adam Winkler, a professor at the University of California, Los Angeles, School of Law and an expert on gun laws and politics.

Authorities have not disclosed precisely how 21-year-old Mohammed Alshamrani, a Royal Saudi Air Force officer undergoing months of flight training at the Florida military base, obtained the Glock 9 mm handgun he used in the attack Friday that ended with him being killed. But the FBI said it was purchased legally in Florida.

In the aftermath of the rampage, which the FBI is treating as a terrorist attack, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis questioned whether foreigners should be allowed to buy guns. The Republican governor said he supports the Second Amendment but it “does not apply to Saudi Arabians.”

Law enforcement officials from nations friendly to the United States who are here on official business as well as foreigners who have entered the U.S. through the visa waiver program are among those exempted from the laws against foreigners buying weapons.

In Florida, like many other states, foreigners and non-residents can buy a hunting license. Getting one requires no background check, and it can be done online. With that license in hand, a foreigner can then purchase a firearm, provided the would-be buyer can show the dealer proof that he or she is living in the state.

It is at that point that the person would have to undergo a background check.

There have been instances of foreigners seeking to exploit American gun laws.

In one case in 2017, more than half a dozen Chinese students at the University of Arizona obtained hunting licenses and then purchased firearms. In that particular case, it did not appear to be for nefarious purposes but out of a desire to do something not allowed in their home country: possess a gun. [full article]

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Guns and Violence: A Choice

If you’re tired of hearing about gun violence just separate the two words

Bob Rogers

To our non-shooting friends and family members, a question: Which would you ban, gun violence or criminal violence?

It’s a simple question that shouldn’t depend on minutes or even seconds of thinking about it.

Try again: Are you against guns or just gun violence? The two are not related to each other because guns are safe in the hands of people who handle guns securely and protectively, obey the law about their use and don’t use them to hurt anybody intentionally. Criminal violence, on the other hand, can come only from the hands of law-breaking people who can, and will, hurt you. Criminals don’t care who they hurt.

You do have a choice; you can seek to ban guns used by people who don’t want to hurt you or you can ban guns from criminals who don’t care who or what they hurt. Even the family dog.

To extract the word, ‘violence’ from the word ‘gun’ is not what gun control groups want.  They don’t want it because it separates good law-abiding people from bad law-breaking people and, as a result, proves that how words are sometimes used can kill not just people but freedoms, too.

From a practical political view, you can use the words ‘gun violence’ to scare some of the people some of the time or you can scare a lot of the people all of the time.  To accomplish the latter, the word ‘violence’ helps gun controllers implement banning the former – ‘gun’ – which is the preferred objective of all gun control advocates. [Read More]

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Harlandale Independent School District police and McCollum High School administrators opened an investigation Thursday after a student reportedly brought a gun on campus.  [full article]

MI – December 5, 2019 – 17-year-old student in custody after bringing a gun to Union High School

A 17-year-old Union High School student was taken into custody Thursday after officer found a firearm in the student’s backpack.  [full article]

OR – December 4, 2019 – A 16-year-old student was arrested with a gun and ammunition at Oregon City High School, according to police.

The Oregon City Police Department school resource officer received a tip at 11 a.m. Wednesday that a student had a gun in his waistband.  [full article]

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